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some of the old notion of a corporation is based on what's called limited liability limited liability means that the individual participants and of course to not be charged with crimes of the corporation commits the kind to a very limited one of the major runs its course of manslaughter the corporation acts in such a way that kills the managers the c.e.o. and the shareholders have a limited liability and it's not that they have disregard for human life they may be the nicest people in the world maybe they give to charity who knows what but in their institutional rule as managers of the corporation there is a task that they must. that task is to maximize profit and market share. if they don't do that they're out and somebody else in the dust of the indian government
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meanwhile declares itself the sole representative of the victims and proceeded to do so out the case for four hundred seventy million dollars which was so cheap the union carbide start went up by two dollars a share settlement was announced if you could not mean that it could be such a growth set out because the union government agreed to settle all bost present and future liabilities for as some as small as four hundred seventy million dollars. people received as little as five hundred dollars but lifelong injuries and the unpunished. i believe whatever happened in the past we cannot change it but what is happening now is in our control it's been twenty seven years and the government should least do something like he. clean water because the ground water is contaminated by
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whoever survived that night and whatever life is left for the gas victims they should get proper treatment so they can spend the rest of their lives in good health. they are gas and water victim children who are born into deformities and their future has to be kept in mind so that these kids can live a proper life and so that their parents do not take them to some sort of burden which i think. you're welcome. i love and. good afternoon c.h.r.y. this is only summer f.m. to la and i'm joined on the line by son jay very much who is an activist in the bhopal campaign and also was a survivor of the terrible disaster in one thousand nine hundred eighty four so sanjay can you tell us a bit about what happened to you on the night of december third one thousand nine hundred four well i was born in. a few months already.
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and i don't. know why i asked myself so because i had no one with me at the parent meeting at my school. she would like. it and. i would be. like. i really know very well in my own eyes that you. and i are in early. sunday was less than two and his sister was nine his elder brother i mean he was only thirteen and these were the only people left alive in a family of. my family old runaways i was told later two of them died in hospital and. my mother and father were.
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intimate is a free system by. the other two i mean. they lost their parents. and three sisters and two brothers call in one night. my bad and. my family members die because of this fact. and his sister when children's village. but it is a gold mine because it was a thousand eight hundred people at what according to the people who were carrying out bodies from the g.t. from the houses around seven thousand to ten thousand people have died in the next seventy two hours and. twenty five thousand people have died. i remember my brother all came up and organized it and. then automatically i myself got involved in the fight and i joined like other organizations i think i'll get it
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. now i realize the longer you guys factory. they're playing they don't know how contaminated a pack a how one going to get the soil on the factories and their like because again the fact the money i'm not paying attention bores them. while we do the study we just want to extend those chemical contamination build a factory and i'll die and see if there is a link. but i believe it is going to go on for all going to school as the site because if you've got a myspace decide to fight it is easy if your little knowledge got here men's room and mostly enough. it's all very high most of the day i did it all and want to dive
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a little bit the phone mostly as i hear it how do you know in fact when a very beautiful and i did this photo get out and you can still see it in the structure of the thing and yes well it's not surprising that the plant is very high on bottom ok. we have received very important documents in this case that i think established very clearly that union carbide knew in advance as early as nine hundred seventy three that this pollution problem that we are facing today they knew this was going to happen and they and they went ahead with this project despite that specific knowledge as early as nine hundred seventy three union carbide engineers or warning the company that the plant presents an unusual challenge in that there's no nearby running body of water into which waste can be discharged so from the design stage waste disposal at the plant was and was a major concern. a lot of the waste streams
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from the plant emptied into the area of the plant known as the solar evaporation pond area. and this is where the waste and toxic sludge were dumped basically and carby we're standing right on top of it and the other side is you can see there used to be a small leak which carbonate also used as a dumping ground for their waste people depended on the water from the link so they drank it and it cost and pedantic. union carbide from the design stage then the bhopal plant could pollute groundwater they also knew that there was a there was a surrounding community that used that groundwater for its drinking water supply. so they believe that they can get rid of someone. by evil parading it and and then when they had like some kind of sludge so they took all of us from the bones and they dumped here and there and you see this black line. and i need the ground of
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this landfill they believe that this kind of lining if. it can keep the vast. lining and the need to go on every day i don't hear. we believe the solar of operation ponds continues to be a source of the subsurface water pollution that's now reaching through the article for and spreading into the surrounding community and can be detected as far away as three kilometers from the main plant campus so that evacuation on water before very high was going to be used the idea was using. only one and one of these isolated that isn't one. factor you want that is still being going to dominate and. needed water because they do not
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have any other choice of a long way and will remain a source of pollution for this area until it's remedial and the party that can do that is you know this december will mark the twenty fifth anniversary of the tragedy at union carbide india ltd facility in bhopal and even today continues to evoke strong emotions globally and rightfully so we're saddened however that despite all that has been written about the tragedy in the past twenty five years so many misconceptions still exist about union carbide and it's wrong the government of india is the appropriate entity to address any i'm going to express by the people of bhopal we are saddened by the fact that the site remains on remediated adding to the tragedy that has occurred the site today is in the hands of the state government of madhya pradesh the state government owns the site and together with the central government they are trying to get the site cleaned up union carbide is now a wholly. subsidiary dow chemical. two thousand one
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third the board. carbide approved the burger agreement create the world's second largest chemical. does complicate things and does it because the law on contamination is very clear in india and in the us and which is the principal polluter pays principle is the idea under international law that the liability for pollution should always be traced back to the polluter the polluter should not be able to externalize the costs of pollution onto society at large or a third party it shouldn't be the government's responsibility to clean up at public expense after private polluters. so. i don't know that he's one of those. people. drinking contaminated water you see this this is like one of the . walks in the neighborhood and then we've got
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a lot of this bomb tested every founded highly contaminated but they do not have any other choice and they are drinking this water. it was like some time two thousand and four it was sometime in the evening. when i eased back to my home there was a letter written by my brother. brad. i'm going to die in a few men so take care of yourselves and he was like he was laying on his back in this room so i had to phone one of my one of my brother's friends and they said i need. more there was talk my brother into the hospital and finally he had to write that thing. before that he had run into a jungle where food and he had tried to set him on fire. she didn't have any physical problem and. the sickness was that of paranoia and fear if anyone
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came over then she would go and hide in the bathroom he used to say he could sort of voice in his mind. download the official locations cell phone choose your language stream quality and enjoy your favorite. t.v. is now required to watch all its heat all you need is your own low ball device to watch aussie any time of the. wealthy british style sign. on the front of. this. market why not. come to. find out what's really happening to the global economy
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been in bed inhales with time but involved with it's getting what. they demand of a man back if we blame each other for everything been no solution will come. that the government blames the company we blame the government a part of the local government suffers the company so first and most importantly the people of bhopal suffer aagot. i don't remember actually who was the media person who asked me this question who do you blame to actually according to you. before i answer to this question he said you're goldman they he said to me your government like ditching you they have been detained people from. so if
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you're gonna listen or villain to help you then what will you will do for you. on that particular night i'm not particular night on the second and third december some gases from the union carbide leaks and some of the people died to being an autopsy surgeon it was my moral duty to find out what the cause of death was. after analysis it was established that cyanide was present to get along with nearly twenty million components are to which it team were deadly. like in hiroshima and nagasaki it had an adverse effect on their genes so similarly this adverse effect of the gases causing genetic mutation in india. would like that we don't speak about bhopal because it's not a good image of all india in america they don't want to talk about because in spite of the fact that there is a warm and for all the rest against mr one hundred and i mr anderson has retired in
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a beautiful house in long island north of new york and of course never. end it was a bone of glacier we're looking at we're going to be effective and one of the implications is for a nation which you know then more than thirty thousand people are affected and the people who are drinking the polluted water have known about the problems this can problems that is this is through the. infections industrial. foreign investment. all of those are sick and that's the position that having to get specific cover ups are not in business to protect the population. that's what they say they are but it's usually a pretty low priority. don't take any worry that somebody stored in. a record country and stored it pretty often loses. often the loss of the work for the
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population but the leaders were willing to take the risk or do something. these want to respond in this stock to leave the government just pimping for chemicals and these are the same people who have so far stalled justice for the victims. but we strongly feel that on this occasion of the twenty seventh anniversary we will be able to the stronger the mixes and we will get justice. they ought to have not to go out get on the other one. of the people responsible for it it's good to know this is not. really have.
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to get just a little but what does it mean that. this could make it's not i was hired to do emerge an acquisition for you. to bring all of the computer applications. i saw. because they are more concerned about bottom line profit than anything i just decided that i was making a profit for just the wrong people and made the decision to purchase union carbide knowing that these liabilities were outstanding so when you purchased the assets of a company purchased those liabilities. we're just asking for our right to clean water union carbide is fully exploited the sort of international dimension of this problem it informs the american courts that new york long. because these events took place in india at the same time this indian law doesn't apply so in effect
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they're arguing that they're above them. appropriate behavior for. of course international law has no enforcement laws of force for somebody who's going on first if the united states doesn't force a. political body they should take responsibility for burp out of. nowhere dime from the water no one is offering clean water they have no choice but. dow chemical go to how it's going to how do how. agents of dow should be spanked. if you look at subject to the jurisdiction of a deal then you'll have to submit to the american courts and the american courts after it was all about. in two thousand and four the supreme court's directed the government to provide clean and safe water but the government the state and central has failed to honor
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the supreme court order. then the problem is that by november two thousand and nine the government would supply clean water but that's a promise was never fulfilled let's get some pipelines relate in some areas but not in every area of the water that supplying these spikes is duty and not. all speak up some kids and dad in my division mission control board certified against any high concentrations of coal like you said knowingly this water is what is being supplied to the locals who have given their lives. the. company should be a license but it cannot break this country's. i
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budget if we win this fight outsiders will gain nothing again will be for years the people of palm. coast what we have asked for is the clean up cost union carbide should clean all the poisonous and harmful toxic chemicals that are stored inside the plant. to the groundwater which is polluted in a radius of three kilometers around the plant should be cleaned and union carbide should be paid for about to. bring anderson to india bring them here dow chemical leave india leave india on top of that we have asked for compensation for the victims who are suffering. it's our mission to fight for people who are weak people who cannot fight for themselves or even know how.
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union carbide should bear these expenses because in the coming ten to fifteen years people will keep getting affected due to the growing water contamination and will be more prone to cancers like diseases and you body has a body if we are fighting for our society we are fighting for our country we are fighting for gas victims. it's only by virtue of the fact that this outfit if it indeed. able to exist. that's come. out of this year afresh known bailable warrant has been issued for foreign anderson. and if the government fails to wake up and help then we are committed to fight the next twenty seven years against the nexus between the company and the government the process could change dramatically if the indian government intervene the states have it it's not going to somebody in the building i mean really i'm not and they don't have to be afforded to someone of
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a government what they have. said to be if they want this ruling. and if you write it off it shows that. they were all the survivors in cold blood they are so good they have submitted a letter although that's all over the local police were i was on any ideas from our research one thing is very clear the union carbide india factory is infected with poisoned food it is a poison which will not lead to death just by touching it so i can understand why there might be a pradesh government is saying there is no poison. but it is also true that it's a kind of poison that is leaking into our environment that is the main thing i am saying is that the factory should be cleaned as soon as possible. god has given you this word with all the facilities that god has given everything
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here why destroyed. felt come on friends join the march with the victims and show that your passion has not cooled down. i. has not turned down because we did not get justice and unless we get justice a passion will never cleaned out. every year millions of people dying because of his unburdened the pursuit of profit. is what people in bhopal a saying is that you cannot do it you are not allowed to do it because life is sacred and that cannot be violated and. i hope that this is my hour the twang day the strength from the rest of the world who will get justice from dell company that i get. the twenty fifth anniversary is just to learn mark the four year for the verse read the first of the
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diverse read will be as important for the final goal. not gore is to clean the factory farm all those toxic effluents which still pull you the water that the people have to drink. the amazon i want the world to understand the crime of these companies they profit from the analysts products as they show on t.v. . these same products poison our lives. and we should never allow down to continue their poisonous business in any other city in the world so that another book pal who will not be repeated. they were three gives us more spirit gives us more encouragement people i'll know what i have been for and we get more support every year than the previous year if there is justice and this world would be safer for all of us to live in because it would set
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a precedent a parent company cannot set up a subsidiary somewhere in the world create a large scale environmental problem there and then when the time comes to fix liability sell off its local subsidiary and then retreat to the united states or any other developed country and a basically say that nobody can sue them here nobody can hold them accountable so that's the sort of context in which if our litigation were to be successful it would set important precedent. i am.
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well thank you for the future to science technology innovation and all the nice developments from around russia we've got the huge earth covered i. thought it would help.

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